Karkat Vantas (
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asgardeventide2012-04-01 09:11 pm
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QUESTION.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF ALL THE DEATH BULLSHIT WE'VE BEEN FORCED TO DEAL WITH LATELY?
EVERYONE WHO DIED CAME RIGHT BACK, RIGHT?
MORTALITY HAS NEVER BEEN AS DRIVING OF A FORCE FOR ME AND MY FRIENDS AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, BUT THAT'S BESIDE THE POINT HERE.
IT'S COMPLETELY OBLITERATED NOW.
WE CAN DIE AND JUST COME RIGHT BACK.
OR DO YOU THINK THE GODS JUST DID THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE "SORRY" FOR PUTTING US THROUGH IT?
LET ME TAKE A STEP IN THE DANGEROUS DIRECTION OF LOOKING LIKE I CARE AND ASK:
HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF ALL THE DEATH BULLSHIT WE'VE BEEN FORCED TO DEAL WITH LATELY?
EVERYONE WHO DIED CAME RIGHT BACK, RIGHT?
MORTALITY HAS NEVER BEEN AS DRIVING OF A FORCE FOR ME AND MY FRIENDS AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, BUT THAT'S BESIDE THE POINT HERE.
IT'S COMPLETELY OBLITERATED NOW.
WE CAN DIE AND JUST COME RIGHT BACK.
OR DO YOU THINK THE GODS JUST DID THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE "SORRY" FOR PUTTING US THROUGH IT?
LET ME TAKE A STEP IN THE DANGEROUS DIRECTION OF LOOKING LIKE I CARE AND ASK:
HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?

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[Listen, he feels strongly enough about this that he's not even trolling you, Karkat.]
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Perhaps you should invest in a business.
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YOU GOT OFFED, DIDN'T YOU?
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Shall we say they extend their graciousness further and allow us to die without consequence; what of it? Seems awfully suspicious to begin with. The idea there's no strings attached is ludicrous.
I've died and returned to life again and again. It's overrated. Suppose if people want to be completely stupid we can't stop them at any rate.
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WHY WOULD YOU DIE OVER AND OVER?
TWO OR THREE TIMES IN MY WORLD IS PUSHING IT.
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People are still going to remember the experience, right?
That's just asking for trauma.
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I mean, I may not have anything to compare it to, and it may seem like it's really no big deal as long as we come back afterwards...but it's not just like breaking your leg and being in the hospital for a few days.
It fucks with you, you know?
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HOW'S IT BEEN AFFECTING YOU?
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LETTING YOURSELF DIE WOULD BE FUCKING STUPID, AND THERE'S NO POINT IN PUTTING A TON OF PEOPLE THROUGH CLEANING UP THE MESS YOU MAKE.
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However, the memories of what happened to Rose resurface cruelly in her mind, and perhaps she needs more of an outlet than anything. So she gets this one chance.]
It's... terrible. I d-don't like this, the f-fact they can come back doesn't c-cancel the trauma and the bad memories...
It's awful, b-but at least it's a little b-better than have loved one disappear i-into nothing all of a sudden. [She remembers of what Nanako told her about her dad. :C]
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AT LEAST WE KNOW THEY'LL COME BACK.
SOMEONE YOU LIKED GOT FUCKED UP?
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A lot
But its not what you think. Though, I'm the last person you'd wanna ask.
I think it'd be easier if we didn't come back right away.
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BECAUSE THAT WOULD FUCKING SUCK.
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when you know you have to
i dont think dying because someone doesnt feel like letting others do what they normally can is really all that fair
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AND IN MY OPINION, PEOPLE SHOULDN'T "HAVE TO" DIE THE WAY WE DID IN OUR WORLD.
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I dunno, I'm more familiar with the whole death and what happens after than a lot of people are where I'm from so the idea of people just being able to come back because the gods say so is really weird. Cheapening, I guess? And people don't usually ever come back entirely when they do, because dying takes away a little bit of you always, but maybe that doesn't apply here too
I guess I'm trying to say that even if people can come back, they shouldn't have let people die like that because it's not as if it's going to take away the feeling of dying to begin with.
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GETTING BROUGHT BACK DOESN'T MEAN YOU DIDN'T FEEL IT WHEN YOUR HEAD WAS ABOUT TO EXPLODE.
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WAY TO BE MORBID.
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+1 FOR THE SHITHIVE RANKS.
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I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR US, BUT I WANNA KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
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iF i AM GOING TO BE BOLD AND STATE MY OPINIONS, wHICH,
i WILL BE, fOR THIS DISCUSSION,
tHINK THAT MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD THING, aND,
iT MAKES THE IDEA OF WAR A LOT LESS SCARY, tHOUGH, iF,
i AM TO ELABORATE ON IT, i THINK THAT DYING IN GENERAL WOULD BE BAD,
bECAUSE BEING STABBED HURT AND, tHE CLIFF HURT,
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sOOOOO, i THINK THAT MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T, uH,
rOCK THE WOODEN FLOATING APPARATUS,
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YOU.
TAVROS NITRAM.
ARE THE ONLY ONE TO FIND SOMETHING GOOD ABOUT DYING.
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DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WAY I TYPE?
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OR MAYBE ALARMING IS THE RIGHT WORD.
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I THINK WE CAN TAKE THE "SO-CALLED" OFF OF THAT AT THIS POINT.
AND IT DOESN'T REALLY SURPRISE ME EITHER, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT IT.
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Think about it tactically-- they brought us here to fight some war, right?
[he gestures like that should explain it even though he knows it probably doesn't. let's continue then]
Death isn't fun. I've never done it, but by all accounts it's messy, painful and it's pretty traumatizing. Plus when you're gone, so's everything you know - here, that'd be everything we learned about the enemies, the lay of the land, how to control these powers they gave us.
So they make it so they don't go losing troops whenever someone's outclassed in a fight, and they make their failures into a learning experiences. Nothing teaches you not to get shot like getting shot, after all.
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PEOPLE ARE GOING TO ABUSE THIS, TOO.
I THINK IT'S CONVENIENT, BUT IT'S DANGEROUS.
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WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A CHOICE, DO WE?
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the memories are still there for all invlvoed
i bet the actual pain of dying still happens and they will remember it when they come back
but most improtantly it is knowing the fact they can do such a thing over and over again to you or to the ppl you carea bout
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shit sucks
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PEOPLE FROM ALTERNIA AREN'T FEELING QUITE THE SAME.
I GUESS BEING IN THE MEDIUM GETS YOU PRETTY JADED ON DEATH, THOUGH.
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I DON'T THINK THESE GODS CARE TOO MUCH ABOUT THE LAWS OF LIFE AND DEATH IN EVERYONE ELSE'S WORLDS.
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