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[falenandawn]

[The curse that had been laid on Lyon, more then angering him, troubled him. Heimdall had censored her, manipulated her words. Perhaps it might have been one of the other gods, but Heimdall seemed most likely, given he was her patron.

It felt wrong. It went against all his views on how one should treat their allies and those who follow you. The curses were always horrible... but censoring someone for their opinions nagged at him until he decided to pose a query over the bracelet network.]

'True loyalty means being able to speak openly about what you think is right and what you think is wrong.'

Someone very important to me... a commander of great skill and wisdom, once said these words to me and others. I believe his words and follow them still. They have served me well so far. I believe a leader must be open to hearing the opinions of those who follow them, their allies and their friends. Even those they might not ever agree with.

[They didn't have to follow what was said..... but to ignore the words of those around entirely seemed, to him, a prideful mistake. There was much to learn by hearing other's opinions.]

Tell me, Asgard, what is your view on loyalty?

[Later in the day, he decides to speak directly to the source of his problem. He wouldn't be as forceful as Lyon.... he would be careful. But he needed to speak. So he makes an attempt to contact him, not publicly, but privately.]

[attempt at a filtered message to Heimdall]
Might I speak with you?

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[asgardsloyalty]

[ TURN AROUND. HE'S RIGHT THERE. ]

You may.

Excellent. [action]

[falenandawn]

[He does turn, and while there's a bit of surprise on his face at such a thing, it wasn't too surprising. Gods.

It might be a bit awkward, but it served his purposes.]

Good afternoon. Thank you for coming on such sort notice.


If it would be alright, I would like to first voice my apologies if my friend and bodyguard has caused you problems in any way.

[However, he wasn't saying she was wrong in her opinions, either.]

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[asgardsloyalty]

It's a wise leader who takes responsibility for those under them.

[ He pauses a moment. Awkwardly. ] But there's no need for any apologies.

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[falenandawn]

Thank you. That is why I called you here. If I had known such a thing would offend, I would have interfered. The fault lies with me.

[He pauses as well, curious in spite of himself.] No need?

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[She remembers seeing this person! ...Except it was someone else because of the body swap, huh...? Oh well.]

I always thought it was just being there for somebody no matter what...

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[falenandawn]

[Oh....? Who's this?

A child?]

That is part of it. But the 'no matter what' can also include being honest with that person if you think they might be making a mistake.

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[She nods her head.]

But if they do make a mistake, I think it's important to still stay by them and teach them how to make it better.

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[falenandawn]

Exactly. Because even leaders make mistakes, but that does not always make them bad people, either.

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[bloodypocket]

Would sharing these views do anything to alter your own take on it?

[Not that he disagrees entirely with what Frey's views were, but there were undeniably flaws to it.]

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[falenandawn]

[An anonymous response? Hmm....]

Perhaps. One can never predict what they might learn and what the future might bring, but I do not see that changing unless given a good reason.

[Every ideal has fallibility. But this one was one he felt he could believe in, and that would likely not be changing.]

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[bloodypocket]

Good reasons, or a rude awakening?

[The latter was the worst means, because by then the damage had already been done.]

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[thismustbelove]

Self-preservation is more important, I think. If the ship is sinking, why bother staying around?

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[falenandawn]

Oh?

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[integrous]

Of course they should listen to everyone's opinions, otherwise they're just a jerk who walks over other's backs!

.. But.. loyalty also means sticking by someone's side no matter what, right? Even if things go back, you don't abandon someone. That's loyalty.

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[falenandawn]

[He can't help but laugh a bit at her words, smiling slightly.] that.. is a good way to put it, Asahi.

And Of course. I never said anything about abandoning anyone.

[integrous]

No, no, I'm saying! That's the main point of loyalty, that you don't abandon those you've sworn your loyalty too, right?

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[gymnast]

I guess it depends on whether or not you mean loyalty to a leader or to a friend. Or family.

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[falenandawn]

Oh?

What are your views on it, then?

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[gymnast]

With leaders, it can be anything from following them blindly and not questioning them, to having your own opinion but still following their rules or laws and respecting them. For family and friends, I think it's more about standing beside them no matter what they've decided to do, and forgiving them if they ever do something wrong. [ She pauses for a moment and then laughs softly. ] I guess it's really not that different after all.

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[gwenhwyfar]

Loyalty? Short-lived.

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[falenandawn]

Short-lived?

You sound as if you speak from experience, if I might be so bold.

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[gwenhwyfar]

Why would I give anyone allegiance to someone who will change in the slightest instance like a breeze?

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[pratentious]

[ Now this is a good discussion. An important one, and Arthur's not too sure how to approach it. He spends a good while mulling it over before clicking on the bracelet. ]

A man's worth can be greatest measured in his loyalty, be it to a lord or his family or simply an ideal. True loyalty knows how to bend without breaking.

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[falenandawn]

I agree. While there is great value in the person with unwavering loyalty, I've found those who can offer their insight as well as their loyalty to a person or ideal are great indeed. No leader is without error at times, and no ideal without it's downfalls. That is why such a thing is invaluable.

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[pratentious]

Any good lord should surround himself with such trustworthy men. There is no truer counsel than that of dissent from your loyal followers.

[ In laymen's, good friends call you on your shit. Cheers to that. ]