Itsuki Koizumi (
deputychief) wrote in
asgardeventide2012-07-22 12:56 pm
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[Hanging in the Odin Welcome Hall. Itsuki offers a smile and a typically composed look to the bracelet.]
Greetings, everyone. Perhaps not all of us have had a chance to go through the publicly available, ah, discussions with our resident trickster god. I thought that I'd perhaps offer a little executive summary of information which was new, at least, to me, to those who haven't been able to. It is attached as a text file to this message.
Of course, I would love to hear other thoughts on these matters. My own opinion is that Loki's argument was reasonably compelling. No matter what our true affiliation is, there is certainly no purpose to be served by not even appearing to be cooperative. For my part, I'm inclined to say that cooperation is in fact the best route for all our interests. [Though of course he'd say that either way.]
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Pertaining to the gods:
- Odin's powers or resources are taxed by maintaining our presence.
- Freyr is said to be a hostage from Vanaheim and to have incurred displeasure due to his advocacy on our behalf. The same to some extent can be assumed for Freya.
- The ruler of Utgard is the "brother" of Loki, and likely hostile, certainly chaotic.
- Sigyn is the wife of Loki. Despite this, the mythological incident with the horses, which I presume refers to the story that Loki was once the mother of a horse, is not denied.
- The prospect of our rebellion is not a harmless one for them. They have repeated that we are the "chance to avoid the apocalypse."
This reinforces two points, which, of course, we knew already:
1) The gods are not a uniform entity, but represent a spectrum of views.
2) Both they and we have stakes in our presence here, despite their power over us.
Pertaining to the war:
- The expected conflict should arrive within one year.
- The war is predicted by a certain prophecy.
- Allies of these gods include elves, as well as the gods of Vanaheim.
- Enemies include the giants of both types, whose attacks on the city we have seen previously.
Finally, Sena Kashiwazaki-sama provided some excellent advice on the comportment and conduct befitting a god. I would advise anyone, and indeed, everyone, to study it carefully.
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Miss Hel, would you mind if I asked you a few questions?
Greetings, everyone. Perhaps not all of us have had a chance to go through the publicly available, ah, discussions with our resident trickster god. I thought that I'd perhaps offer a little executive summary of information which was new, at least, to me, to those who haven't been able to. It is attached as a text file to this message.
Of course, I would love to hear other thoughts on these matters. My own opinion is that Loki's argument was reasonably compelling. No matter what our true affiliation is, there is certainly no purpose to be served by not even appearing to be cooperative. For my part, I'm inclined to say that cooperation is in fact the best route for all our interests. [Though of course he'd say that either way.]
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Pertaining to the gods:
- Odin's powers or resources are taxed by maintaining our presence.
- Freyr is said to be a hostage from Vanaheim and to have incurred displeasure due to his advocacy on our behalf. The same to some extent can be assumed for Freya.
- The ruler of Utgard is the "brother" of Loki, and likely hostile, certainly chaotic.
- Sigyn is the wife of Loki. Despite this, the mythological incident with the horses, which I presume refers to the story that Loki was once the mother of a horse, is not denied.
- The prospect of our rebellion is not a harmless one for them. They have repeated that we are the "chance to avoid the apocalypse."
This reinforces two points, which, of course, we knew already:
1) The gods are not a uniform entity, but represent a spectrum of views.
2) Both they and we have stakes in our presence here, despite their power over us.
Pertaining to the war:
- The expected conflict should arrive within one year.
- The war is predicted by a certain prophecy.
- Allies of these gods include elves, as well as the gods of Vanaheim.
- Enemies include the giants of both types, whose attacks on the city we have seen previously.
Finally, Sena Kashiwazaki-sama provided some excellent advice on the comportment and conduct befitting a god. I would advise anyone, and indeed, everyone, to study it carefully.
[added after this thread]
Miss Hel, would you mind if I asked you a few questions?

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However, some of his information may have indeed been correct, and gathering it is useful.
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That said, a process of excessive doubt is not productive. That seems to be the greater danger here. We can't proceed in any case without acting upon this information, as it is the only source we have at present.
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It might be worth reading about Ragnarok, though it's not going to be exact.
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There's more benefit to listen to them than not, isn't there? But I guess rebellions would be another form of emotion stuff that the gods want...
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I thought it would only endanger their project if they found their way out.
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Would you say we can trust them?
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That is, it's clear that their desire to defeat these enemies is genuine. It's also clear that they brought us here to do so. Finally, it's clear that the others are indeed hostile to us, whereas this society is more peaceable. So far, so good. Other truths, however, remain to be decided.
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Of course, if there's some doubt about how far we should trust them in terms of participating in the conflict, it only follows logically that even more doubt should be placed on what they tell us will happen should the desired end occur.
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This is all well and good if the conflict actually arrives, but what if it doesn't? We could be here for an entirely different reason that they refuse to divulge. Even if they are telling the truth, with the amount of opposition their actions have garnered, very few people will be prepared if a war actually occurs.
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Indeed. And more of us should be prepared.
As for the earlier point, if they were planning a subterfuge of that sort, one would think that they would have something more immediately compelling as their distraction. It's a decidedly complicated scheme, and if something more complicated still is behind it, it would be hard to conceal all signs.
Of course, that's hardly a certainty. The possibility you outline is real, but I believe the preponderance of the evidence doesn't support it.
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Special treatment? Of course not. I know I wouldn't blame anyone for grabbing on to those bits of what you say which we are lucky enough to hear.
Regardless, thank you for letting it slide.
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((ooc: I'm very late so if your enthusiasm for this post is winding down, feel free to skip me! I'll catch you next time.))
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